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What is the real future of Quicken for Mac?

While Aaron Forth's mea culpa to Mac users sounds nice, the company has a history of offering Mac users a sub-standard experience. Like many Quicken for Mac users, I had to migrate all my data to iBank, which is no small task. iBank 4 has many advantages over Quicken although it is far from perfect, especially in the area of reporting. But iBank is committed to the Mac platform where Quicken is clearly not (so far). The previous Quicken versions were always designed to be less capable than their Windows cousins, a reflection of Intuit's attitude toward either Apple and/or Mac users. So now, out of the blue, comes an email promising a new future for Mac users, on the heels of emails notifying us that Intuit is ceasing support for Mac Lion users. I'm interested to know what Intuit plans to win Mac users back? Considering the amount of time/effort it takes to migrate between software platforms, there is zero chance I'll switch back to a 2007 version that's "upgraded" to work on Lion. If there's a free upgrade to a far more capable, current version, then maybe. What are the specifics of Intuit's plan?
  • I have to agree.  I've made the switch to iBank a while ago now and it wasn't that painful but it did take a lot of time and effort to make the switch.  Even though I loved Quicken and used it for over 20 years there's very little chance I would ever go back when I have a solution that works right now.

    It would also have been nice if Mr. Forth's e-mail had included his e-mail address.  If he really wanted to start rebuilding a relationship with the Mac community and was looking to Mac customers for "ideas and feedback" he could have provided some way to communicate with him.  Both the tone and connotations of his e-mail make me think nothing has changed and it's not likely to.
  • I'm going to take Aaron Forth at his word that they are going to offer a full Quicken that works in Lion and will be happy to pay for it if/when they deliver. However, I'm still running Quicken Mac 2006 on a spare Mac in parallel with SEE Finance on my main Mac in case Intuit disappoints again.

    My needs for Quicken are pretty minimal, mainly Quick Reports and Standard Reports that can be exported to Excel, intuitive reconciliation window, editable payee list. I don't use Bill Pay within Quicken due to a bad experience years ago when my Quicken file became corrupted. And i don't download from financial institutions since I use my manually maintained Quicken records to reconcile with them. I have detected bank errors and fraud over the years using Quicken.

    I tried iBank and SEE Finance along with Quicken Essentials when I upgraded to Lion. SEE came the closest to what I need although I don't care for its GUI as much as the old Quicken's. Mint was a possibility until I found out you can't export from it. I like having years worth of personal finance data available for analysis.

    So I'm hoping for the best with the new Quicken for Mac!
  • I just wanted to point out they did put in a way to export from Mint in CSV format, but it doesn't have a time range so it is sort of a all or none.  You can export accounts separately though.
  • Yes!  Exactly!!!

     "NCW" and "MikeK1" hit the nail on the head with their post and comment - thank you for saying what so many have got to be thinking!  What a goat rope for those of us who have been using Quicken for the past 20 years.  "We're no longer going to support the Mac...  Well, okay we'll patch up 2007 so it works and then see what happens."  Seriously?!?!  I'm afraid Aaron's efforts might be too little, too late.

    I too have already migrated to iBank 4 (not perfect, but it works) and am just not feeling very enticed by a promise for a make-shift Quicken 2007 (for the love of humanity - next week is 2012!).  Like MikeK1, I searched for a means to send my thoughts directly to Mr. Forth but instead he gets to share his feedback with the entire community who thinks to look here.  I wonder if that's really what he wants?
  • I am also very disenchanted with Intuit's lack of quicken support for the Mac platform.  I have been an Intuit personal/business customer (quicken & turbo tax)  for 20+ years.  I converted to the Apple Mac platform for personal and business use 5 years ago. For most this time I have had to keep a windows machine around to run  quicken & turbo tax.  When intuit released their updated Mac quicken product several years ago, I bought it only to discover that it was a subpar product not capable of supporting my needs. Now I run VMware Fusion on a MacBook Pro for the sole purpose of running quicken in a windows partition.  If it were not due to the fact that i have been using quicken fir so long, i would not have gone to the expense of purchasing both Fusion & Windows licenses simply so i can use quicken for home & business.  The strange thing is that turbo tax for home & business runs on the Mac platform just fine.   So I reinterate what others have asked, what's the deal Intuit with not  supporting quicken on the apple platform?
I think the real question is -What is the real future of Quicken in general? Reality is Quicken in PC or MAC is not as popular / as used, as many would think...  - Forget the PC or Mac angle. It seems pretty evident that Intuit is lets say coasting in regard to Quicken for Windows and almost at a stand still in regard to their Quicken offering(s) for MAC. Bandaid fixes by Intuit it seems and little more, until desktop Quicken (PC or Mac) as we know it is no put out to pasture so to speak.

Do suggest becoming familiar with MINT as I predict, as others do, that in a few years we will be working with Quicken/Mint hybrid of sorts based in the clouds. Actually, I am looking for to it.   8-)
    SMLVT70 ............  YOU knowingly moved to MAC from PC, 5 years ago.  You undoubtedly knew the risks in regard to software availability (most any software) and the Mac. Your rants and the rants of other MAC users here are futile I believe.  

     As I mentioned in my other post here ...I think the real question is -What is the real future of Quicken in general? Reality is Quicken in PC or MAC is not as popular / as used, as many would think...  - Forget the PC or Mac angle. It seems pretty evident that Intuit is lets say coasting in regard to Quicken for Windows and almost at a stand still in regard to their Quicken offering(s) for MAC. Bandaid fixes by Intuit it seems and little more, until desktop Quicken (PC or Mac) as we know it is no put out to pasture so to speak.

    I would have moved to MAC years ago probably had I not realized that if I wanted to continue to reap the benefits of Quicken and some other PC only software I would need to stick with PC.   Yes, Quicken for Windows can be run parallel on a Mac, etc. but not without trials and tribulations lets say.  It's just not worth it to me.....

    Disclaimer:  I am not an Intuit employee,  I'm just Quicken user that has been so since the inception of Quicken by Scott Cook many years ago.
    • BillArf .... I don't think any of us are ranting. We all received an email from the new head of Quicken promising a whole new future for Mac users with very little in the way of specifics other than an update to a five year old release. Since there was no mechanism for feedback to the email I started this discussion. I was hoping an Intuit rep would get involved and provide some insight but apparently not. Actions speak right?
    • I am both thrilled and really ticked off and frustrated by the recent creation of Lion compatible Quicken.  Thrilled because I migrated to iBank and have been longing to return to Quicken 2007.  Ticked off because of the abrupt way that we were dumped and frustrated by y why it took so long to even tell us that this change was coming.  After months and months of "that's it" I finally saw no choice but to trash 20 years of Quicken files are start over.  Does this new release really mean a change of heart re Intuit's long term commitment to the MAC? I really don't want want to endure another conversion and purge if this 2007 Lion compatible Quicken will only work until Mountain Lion comes out this summer.
    • I'm still irritated that they provided no migration path from quicken online to mint, nice hole in my data.  Quicken Essentials couldn't even graph net worth over time.