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I have never changed my Quicken Preferences in regards to where backups should be saved, but in my Users / Documents folder I have a file named Quicken Data.qdfm, a file named Copy of 1Quicken Data.qtfm, a folder named Quicken Backup Folder and a folder named Quicken Backup Folder Copy (which is locked).    In the Quicken Backup Folder Copy, there are 12 Quicken Data.qdfm files numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11, 21, 31, 41, 51, and 61 at the beginning of each file.    In the Quicken Backup Folder, there are 60 some .qdfm files and a folder named Old Quicken Folder which has 9 files with (Q2005) at the end of them.    Are all of these files and folders only backups and can I trash all of them and start the backups from scratch?  In other words, can I trash all of them, open Quicken, then quit Quicken, so that I'll have a brand new backup or can I just back it up manually.  The folder named Backup folder consists of 266.5MBs of files!    Also, does the Quicken Application save itself as a .qdfm file (so to speak)?
    The file named Quicken Data.qdfm is the file you originally created.  The files numbered 1,2,3,4,5,6 are backups of the original file.  The files numbered 11,21,31,41,51,61 are backups of backup file 1. This indicates that you have opened and closed backup file 1 at least six times.  Every time you close a Quicken file, a backup is created, whether you have made any changes to the accounts or not.  By opening and closing backup files Quicken is creating backups of backups. Remember...Quicken creates a backup of what ever file was open each time Quicken is quit. Eventually you won't know which file is which.   To make your backups more useful:  1. Turn off b Automatic Backups  2. Turn on b Remind me to backup the data file  Now you can decide when to backup the file. If you've only opened the file the review some information, there is obviously no need for a new backup. Ideally you should be backing up to a different volume or disk.   To make it easier to open your data file, drag it to the right hand end of the dock near the trash can and release it. This will place an icon of the file in the dock. Now a single click on that icon launches Quicken and opens the data file.  When you have all that done and are satisfied that your original file contains all your latest data you can safely drag all the other backups and copies to the trash.
      Quote:" Quicken Data Files: Thanks for your prompt reply, Carl.  I have my Quicken application icon in my dock, so...">I have my Quicken application icon in my dock, so wouldn't that serve the same purpose as dragging the file to the right side of the trash can?  No! When you launch Quicken by clicking it's icon, it opens whatever file you had open last. The insure that you are opening the right file, you need the click on the file's icon. It's no different than opening a specific word document.Dragging the data file to the dock as I suggested in my previous post, does not actually move the file, it only creates a shortcut. When you release the mouse the actual file jumps back to the Documents folder.  > Also, the file I'm currently using is named 1112Copy of 21Quicken Data.qdfm. After I trash all of the old Backup Folders, can I change the name of the file from 1112Copy of 21Quicken Data.gdfm to just Quicken Data.qdfm?  Yes that is what you should do.  >I do clone my entire hard drive to an external drive every week.  Then you should only need to make an interim back up of your data file when you've made significant changes.
        Quote:" Quicken Data Files: Thanks, again.  I only have one file that I work with and I've always just clicked..."Obviously you haven't just worked with on file because you had backups of backups. That indicates that at least you opened one backup file.I'm hoping that in the pending Quicken Financial Life the backup and file opening issue will be addressed. I think those two things have done much more harm than good.
          Quote:" Quicken Data Files: Carl, every time I want to make an entry (which is almost daily) I click on the..."OK so how did you get from your original file named Quicken Data.qdfm to 1112Copy of 21Quicken Data.qdfm?However, your are of course free to use whatever method works for you.
            Quote:" Quicken Data Files: Hello Carl I just finished cleaning up a very confusing data file / backup file problem on..."You could move them. The important thing is to have them in a location that is backed up periodically to a disk other than your startup volume.The default backup scheme in Quicken is really not of much value since it backs up the open file each time you close or quit. If you happened to open and close your .qdfm file six times in a row without adding or changing any data, you would have six backup files identical to your working file.I turn off Auto Backup and turn on Remind Me To Backup... That way I decide whether I need a new backup or not. In addition I do a daily automatic backup of my entire user folder to another drive. I have three drives on my desktop computer. For simplicity sake I left my .qdfm file in the documents folder. My backup folder is on my Backup drive.I have several data files. To ensure that I am opening the correct one I have dragged each one to the right end of my dock, next to the trash can. When I released the mouse the file returned to it's original location but a shortcut was left in the dock. Now when I hover the mouse over the icon the file name pops up and a single click opens it. Clicking on the Quicken application icon, on the other hand, opens whatever file was opened last. So if you happened to open a backup file out of curiosity, that will be the file that opens the next time and under the Auto Backup scheme a new series of backups will be started.
              Quote:" Quicken Data Files: The file named Quicken Data.qdfm is the file you originally created.  The files numbered 1,2,3,4,5,6 are..."Thanks for your prompt reply, Carl.  I have my Quicken application icon in my dock, so wouldn't that serve the same purpose as dragging the file to the right side of the trash can?      Also, the file I'm currently using is named 1112Copy of 21Quicken Data.qdfm.  After I trash all of the old Backup Folders, can I change the name of the file from 1112Copy of 21Quicken Data.gdfm to just Quicken Data.qdfm?    I guess I was originally confusing 'Saving' a file with 'Backing Up' a file, thinking that each of those .qdfm files was how Quicken saved the most recent file.    I do clone my entire hard drive to an external drive every week.
                Quote:" Quicken Data Files: I have my Quicken application icon in my dock, so wouldn't that serve the same purpose as..."Thanks, again.  I only have one file that I work with and I've always just clicked on the application icon in the dock and entered info from there.  I've often wondered why Quicken doesn't save documents as other apps do and the backup procedure is very complicated and confusing.  I could understand if Quicken would allow you to save files like other applications (File / Save As, then enter a file name) but Quicken doesn't work that way.
                  Quote:" Quicken Data Files: Obviously you haven't just worked with on file because you had backups of backups. That indicates that..."Carl, every time I want to make an entry (which is almost daily) I click on the Quicken application icon in my Dock.  I have been opening and making entries this way since 2004.
                    Quote:" Quicken Data Files: OK so how did you get from your original file named Quicken Data.qdfm to 1112Copy of 21Quicken..."When you suggested that I drag the .qdfm file to the right side of my Dock, I looked in my Backup folder for the .qdfm file with the most recent modification date (which was the 1112Copy of Quicken Data.qdfm file), but I have no idea how the name got changed unless I changed it during one of the upgrading processes.
                      Quote:" Quicken Data Files: I have my Quicken application icon in my dock, so wouldn't that serve the same purpose as..."Hello CarlI just finished cleaning up a very confusing data file / backup file problem on my new iMac computer running OS10.5.  I followed you suggestions in 3 different posts on the subject.  Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.  It was much more helpful than the e-mail support from Intuit and even the $25 telephone support.I now have a file called Quicken Data.qdfm and a folder called Quicken Backup Folder.  Both are located in the documents folder of my user account.  I've trashed all of the other data files.  The new file works fine.In the past I have stored the backup folder and what I thought was the data file in a folder I created in my user file called FINANCES.  Can I now move these 2 new files to this folder?   Or should I leave well enough alone?   It seems from your discussions that the default location for both of these files is in the document folder.Thanks againJohn