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Quicken DOES work on a network!

Contrary to all the posts I've seen on this site saying that Quicken doesn't work over a network, I'd like to report that in my experience it works just fine.  As always, however, the devil is in the details.First, a few caveats:- I do not work for Quicken, and do not represent them in any way.- I understand that Quicken explicitly does NOT support Quicken over a network.  You have been warned_ proceed at your own risk!Having said that, here are the details:- I've been using Quicken Basic for Windows over a network for about 10 years.  (I have no experience with Quicken for Mac, or other Quicken products).- By "network", I mean a peer-to-peer network of PC's running various flavors of Windows, most recently NT, 2000, and XP pro.  I don't do XP home or Vista anything.- Quicken is installed on each machine where we need it (usually 2 or 3).- Quicken's data files are stored on a shared network disk, usually on our home server, but sometimes on whatever machine is convenient.  We never use Quicken's default location for its data files.*** The machine that hosts the Quicken data files must "share" the drive or folder containing the files.*** Each other machine that wants to access the data files must "map" the shared drive to a local drive letter, and access the files through that network drive.*** Quicken won't open a data file if you try to access it through "My Network Places".- I don't know what will happen if you try to open the same data file on two different machines simultaneously.  We Don't Do That, and I Don't Advise It.- We don't use Quicken's built-in backup feature.  We back up our Quicken files along with the rest of our important data.I hope this is of use to some of you.
    Glad to hear it's working for you.I have tried, tried again and yet tried even again...with the same configuration you stated word for word...and every time I try to add or edit ANY transaction in a Quicken data fileset on a shared, mapped drive I get my data file corrupted._ And, I do have Quicken installed on each "workstation".I finally gave up trying.My only suggestion is that you back up frequently._ And even though this works for you, there is plenty of evidence that it doesn't work for_a whole bunch of users.
      Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: Glad to hear it's working for you. I have tried, tried again and yet..."Wow!  I'm curious what's different about our setups.  I've been a software engineer for a quarter of a century, and I can't imagine what would cause the behaviour you've described.  (I believe you, I just don't know what could be causing it.)  In recent years I've used only NTFS non-compressed file systems, running "real" operating systems (i.e. no Win95, WinME, XP Home, etc.).I'd be interested to hear from others on their attempts to get this working_ we probably wouldn't be using Quicken if we couldn't access our data on a shared drive.
        Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: Wow!  I'm curious what's different about our setups.  I've been a software..."I've always assumed any program could work over a network and have used Quicken over a network from time to time without problems._ I do all my backups to network shared drives using Windows Schedules Tasks in the middle of the night instead of Quicken backups, because trusting Quicken to back itself up would be like trusting congress to regulate itself.When you say "** The machine that hosts the Quicken data files must "share" the drive or folder containing the files." obviously they also have to allow others to change the files (full control)._ It could be that there are some files in other folders like c:Documents and SettingsUserNameLocal Settings emp that need to be shared._ I don't know because I have my whole C drive shared for users that I trust._ I know that's unstylish and unrecommended, but it simplifies life a lot.I don't know if it matters, but I'm also only running "real" operating systems with non-compressed NTFS file systems and I don't use Simple File Sharing._ Instead I use user_and group based_permissions._
          Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: I've always assumed any program could work over a network and have used Quicken..."I have a Netgear router with PCs running Windows XP Pro SP 2.The computers are directly connected to the router through 100 base T ethernet connection...so I am not accessing them through a wireless router configuration.I have Quicken software on my "main" PC in a folder named "Quicken", not in the Program Files folder._ I have my Quicken data fileset on my main PC in a folder named "Quicken Data", also not in the Program Files folder._ Both of these folders are "below" the C: drive and NOT in the My Documents folder.Due to my dental software restrictions, I have the entire C: drive as a shared folder.On my "workstation" PC's, I have the Quicken software installed on each._ Also, since I use my dental software on each of these workstations, I have the C: drive from my main PC mapped to each workstation._ Each mapped drive has it's own drive letter designation (this may vary from machine to machine, but it is mostly E: drive).When I open Quicken on my workstation, I use FILE  OPEN and select the .qdf file from that E: shared mapped drive._ After a little wait (it's through the network), my data loads.I can see all my data transactions from Quicken._ EVERY time I try to change a transaction or add a transaction, Quicken will shut down._ When I attempt to open this file on my main PC, my data file either won't open or the data is inaccurate and corrupted._ I am forced to restore my last Quicken backup...which for me is no problem since I backup daily.So...you tell me what I have done wrong or how our configurations are different.Obviously, I have no restrictions and/or problems with my dental software (which IS supported for network configurations), since I can function using that software from SIX PC's networked together._ Also, I run EZBackItUp software through 3 of the PC's, allowing me to backup various data (including my Quicken data file set and ALL my pertinent dental backups) to those PC's._ I do all of the previous without a hitch on a daily basis.Only Quicken crashes and corrupts my data.Any suggestions?
            Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: I have a Netgear router with PCs running Windows XP Pro SP 2. The..."It sounds like we have pretty similar setups except I have Linksys instead of Netgear and SP3 instead of SP2, but I don't think that matters.Can all the computers modify files on the E drive?_ When you share a folder you have the option to make it read only or writeable._ On my sharing I have a choice of Full Control, Change or Read, but that might be because I don't use Simple File Sharing._ Sometimes the selection is called "Allow network users to change my files"._ From your description is sounds like all the computers can_read from_the main computer and the main computer to write to all the PCs, but maybe the PCs can't write to the main computer.One other difference is that I don't map drives_ I use UNC names <A href="file://\computerCfolder">\computerCfolder</A>._ I prefer it because when you map drives your PC attempts to make all the connections at boot time, which might not be possible if some of the computer are off._ I don't think this matters, but it might help if all computers had the same pathname for the files, like <A href="file://\MainComputerCQuickenwhatever.qdf">\MainComputerCQuickenwhatever.qdf</A>.Do you have firewalls (like Norton, McAfee, or OneCare) on your computers?_ On mine whenever I attach to a new network it defaults to Public and I have to switch to Home/Work for file sharing to work.Do you have any of the Quicken background programs (Billminder?) running?_ Maybe that causes two of the computers to access the Quicken file at the same time.I don't know if any of that helps._ Over the years I've_used <A href="http://www.practicallynetworked.com">http://www.practicallynetworked.com</A>_and_<A href="http://www.annoyances.org/">http://www.annoyances.org</A>_to help figure out networking problems.
              Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: Wow!  I'm curious what's different about our setups.  I've been a software..."The problem is that Quicken is not "network aware". When you open a Quicken file, the data is live. When the file is on a local hard drive, Windows handles the reading/writing operations. When the file is on a mapped drive. you introduce a second level of writing/reading operations through Windows networking which can corrupt data.Greg
                Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: The problem is that Quicken is not "network aware". When you open a Quicken..."This makes no sense to me.  I've never had to write a program to be explicitly "network aware".  I've almost never encountered any application that checks to see whether a drive is local or networked, and in the rare cases that did, the program gave explicit feedback about the situation, rather then just failing inexplicably.
                  Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: This makes no sense to me.  I've never had to write a program..."You do realize that a Quicken Data File is actually a relational database and not just a bunch of records.Greg
                    Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: You do realize that a Quicken Data File is actually a relational database and..."Why does it matter that it's a relational database?_ On web servers_the MySQL server is normally on a separate computer from the web server and they seem to be able to play together without problems._ In general, it seems very common to have the program on one computer and the data on another and you don't have to write special software to make it happen.Bits are bits and bytes are bytes._ That's one_of the main advantage of digital over analog_ once you are working with bytes it shouldn't matter where or how they are stored.One way to avoid network problems is to use Remote Desktop over the local network._ That way the data stays on one computer and only the user interface (display, etc) goes over the network._ This also keeps two computers from accessing the Quicken file at the same time because Remote Desktop disconnects the local user.
                      Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: It sounds like we have pretty similar setups except I have Linksys instead of..."From your description is sounds like all the computers can_read from_the main computer and the main computer to write to all the PCs, but maybe the PCs can't write to the main computer.Obviously my workstations PC's can write to the main computer through the network.As I said previously, I use my dental practice software on all six computers, adding and editing data as I go along during the day, as well as my office staff, from any and all of the six computers._ This happens seamlessly with NEVER a problem.Any other suggestions?_
                        Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: From your description is sounds like all the computers can_read from_the main computer and..."If you want something that has official support for "Multiple Users &amp_ Multiple Locations", you could get QuickBooks Pro._ It can have simultaneous users and individual access levels for each users._ However it's organized for accountants (double entry, debit/credit, etc)_and often_non-accountants don't like it as much as Quicken.I like Quicken's method of using positive and negative numbers instead of doing things like_crediting a debit account.
                          Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: If you want something that has official support for "Multiple Users &amp_ Multiple Locations",..."I have no use, nor do I want to purchase QuickBooks._ I am not complaining that Quicken doesn't run with my network configuration...I'm just stating it doesn't work for me, thus offsetting the cavalier remarks that Quicken DOES work on a network.I have no illusions that Quicken would or should work on a network...it is clearly not made to do so and Quicken implicitly states that it does not encourage or support it on a network configuration._ If it works for others...great._ It doesn't for me and although it might be interesting if it did, I had no expectations that it would work.
                            Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: I have no use, nor do I want to purchase QuickBooks._  I am..."I thought svimes post was detailed and didn't find it offhand, unceremonious, haughty, disdainful, or supercilious.People tell me computers work better when I'm watching them, like the way your car runs better when you are trying to show a mechanic what's wrong with it.Quicken seems to work over the network for svimes, me, and probably others._ Your results may vary._ Consult a professional before trying this at home._ Possible side effects include frustration, nausea, feeling good about having backups, and in rare cases a belief that the government can solve problems.
                              I have an NAS drive and Quicken Premier 2008 SEEMS to work normally on files on that device, EXCEPT if I close Quicken after using a file on that device, then re-start it, it completely forgets the last file I was working with and makes me find it all over again. Is this just an inconvenience, or am I taking a big risk running on an NAS-hosted file?
                                Quote:" Quicken DOES work on a network!: From your description is sounds like all the computers can_read from_the main computer and..."Ok, I came on to determine if I could use Quicken on my Network so my wife and I can use it at the same time.  Now looking at the posts, I assume i know why that will not work.I am a dp guy and could explain this a bit if you needed me to.  But suffice it to say, that if you do not build a application to be multiuser, it will not work properly.  It may work 99% of the time, but if you dont lock records, tables and indexes properly, two people could update a page of data at the same time.  This would mess up everything.